Watching "Crash" on our SH Winter Retreat

This MLK weekend is our Senior Winter Retreat at Camp of the Woods (COTW), in Speculator NY.  If you have never been to COTW, it’s quite the place – half camp – half resort.  It’s sorta like a mega-church for church camps.

This trip to this venue was foreordained  by decades of  life-long devotees.  We have several members of our congregation that have homes here and  many more that plan on retiring here and then there is the countless population that vacation here.  Add to it that many of our youth group students work here for the summer, and you have legend almost as big as Narnia.  I like to joke that for all their vision, imagination, fundraising, and preaching, it is unbearable to live with its completely unoriginal name – “Camp of the Woods”??  Was “Camp by the Lake” already taken?  Aside from that, it’s a nice place, with a great staff, and though a tad pricey, it’s been the venue of some of our better memories.

Each year, we put on our own winter retreat program.  We use our own worship band, I speak, etc.  Sound boring?  Shut up, that’s what we do Wednesday nights too.  In order for it not to look like Wednesday nights, we go skiing, have a talent show, play games, bring the Xbox and embarrass ourselves to Rock Band and overall, we do our best to create the fun.  It helps that we have a solid core group that get into whatever we’re doing.  Regarding the lesson theme, we’ve used movies. It’s been tough brainstorming movies that will work for an entire weekend.

My first year at this church we did a safe movie – a little, independent feature, called “The Matrix”.   Yeah, it was the “Garden State of ’99″.   It was easy,  the points connected well, we got a solid response, and for some, it was the first thing I did right.  Last year, we weren’t safe and we did the satire, “Saved!” and we themed it around hypocrisy and unconditional love.  The discussion groups were excellent.  The movie offends, at least mildly, to most people, (as is the point of good satire) but I was impressed that no one thought we should not have shown it.  For this and other reasons, last year was probably the best retreat that I had been a part of. 

So, as we were leaving for this retreat, I welcomed them to the second-best retreat ever (since we didn’t want to put any undue pressure on ourselves).  We’ve changed a few things, trying a different ski resort, implementing some new rules to balance sociability and technology (I don’t ban ipods, but free reign has kept a small minority disengaged), and showing another great movie.

We’re showing “Crash”.  It’s an edited version (some parts maybe a bit too much but I suppose the envelope should only be pushed so far) from one of those companies that stay in business for a few months and get shut down.  

Our themes will be Justice, Racism, Providence and Redemption and I am excited for this discussion this MLK Weekend.  I am using more Scripture than I normally do and am hoping that I am using the language of movies to connect with them, that the language of Scripture will translate too.  We’ll see what happens.

Less Violent Imagery … in Our Youth Ministry Please

I’ve been following the Youthbytes conversation first posted on pomomusings and now on the YS blog here and  wanted to avoid a long comment so I’m creating my own post.  Having only seen this clip, this post is not to trying to be critical of the organization or of Chad Daniel.  In fact, I appreciate people from the organization like the executive producer, Berin, who gave an apology for anyone who may have been offended and made the point that 39 out of their 40 videos might be better.  

I’m pretty pragmatic on certain things, if you make video that I will draw my audience closer to Christ, then I’ll probably buy/show it even if Hugh Heffner made it.  (What else can a  Christian believe in a world when every Zondervan Bible makes Rubert Murdoch richer, right?).

My comment was getting pretty long so I just decided to make my own post.  For those who skim, point 3 is the thesis, and points 4 and 6 are my stronger points.

1. Seriously, as a youth pastor, I am thankful for organizations like Youthbytes.  For a variety of reasons,  I am also thankful for men like Chad.  We have our different gifts, personalities, etc. our ministries will reach different people, yada yada.  You know where I am going with this diversity in the Body sermon right?

2. I am thankful for the exercise of this conversation.  In no way, am I trying to criticize a person/people/ministry etc. But it is important that we rethink ideas, strategies, methodologies and it’s ok if we do it as a community.

3.  That said, my personal contention is that the spiritual warfare/culture war/Onward Christian Soldier/etc. is overdone.  This is probably my biggest problem I have in this conversation.  We tend to talk about war, violence and beating the devil type of thing a little too much.

4.  Though I admit that I am rather desensitized to violence (probably from watching Tom & Jerry as a kid), I’ve had to reexamine this aspect of my life.  I remember saying to someone, “Yeah it’s a Rated R movie.  There’s a sex scene and profanity…”  My friend replied, “Was there any violence?  Violence really bothers me.”.  I admit, I was caught a little off guard and am a bit ashamed to admit that.  I can watch a head being decapitated but I cringe (a little) when I hear the F-bomb? That’s not right.

5.  Our context doesn’t help either.  Globally we are seen as the most violent of the civilized.  While there are many pacifists, many Christians are seen as war-hungry. 

6.  Now I know this video is not demonstrating a context of blood or war but that enters our mind because of the gun.  But for me, it’s a stretch to see the spiritual analogy.  I really see it as a video to build credibility with impressionable teen-agers.  Cool gun, blowing stuff  up, I’ll listen for a few moments.  If you don’t believe me, ask yourself why a bow and arrow wasn’t used.   Indeed there is a violent imagery in Scripture.  Paul uses these analogies as well.  Jesus even says that he comes with a sword (Matthew 10).  But again, it seems a little overdone.   There’s also a lot of sex in Scripture.  My sarcastic suggestion is to shoot a video with the bikini-clad Hooters girls encouraging their audience to make a pledge to read the Bible everyday this year.  There would be a lot of pledge cards and that video would sell. 

7. From the little I know of Youthbytes, they are trying to sell Biblically grounded videos that teens will enjoy watching.  And they can probably make more money selling other things and they want to fulfill the calling God has placed on their lives.  I don’t think the creation, purchase, and showing of this video is going to ruin our students but here is something else for your consideration.  But still, It’s worth remembering that Jesus didn’t use a weapon to kill the devil when he was being tempted.  Why do I mention that?  I literally think that if the literal devil literally appeared to us that we would literally physically try to attack him.  Literally.  And we may think that because we have a lot of violence in our world and a lot in our churches.   I think a more powerful video would be how to fight evil without being violent like the turning the other cheek idea, or the entering of Jerusalem on a donkey or commanding Peter to put away his sword.   These videos may not be as appealing or as easy to make but man, they would be great for the Kingdom.

For the sake of fairness, I’ll check out Youthbytes videos.  Their reputation is on the line in the minds of a few here.  I wish them the best.  For what it’s worth, violence is overplayed in our youth ministries and while the idea is not to never use a violent metaphor but in using also the many other metaphors contained in Scriptures.

Our Sr. High Youth Group go to the Mall to find the Meaning of Christmas

As a youth group, each year we do a Christmas party in our beloved youth room affectionately called The Fireside Room (it has a fireplace and it it’s a room and since I’m not extreme youth pastor, I have no plans to rename to rename it to the “Inferno Room” or “House Ablaze” … anyway).   In previous years, we had the coffee bar going, the carols, I would give a brief Christmas reflection, we may tell a story, and then of course, the White Elephant exchange.   Well I Well, I love Silent Night, and Rudolph and I pretty much like all the Christmas traditions (sacred and secular) including the White Elephant thing as much as the next guy but it was time to do something different.

I tried to volunteer our group to throw a Christmas party at either a children’s hospital or an assisted living/nursing home.  No one wanted us.  We may have a terrible reputation that I am unaware of or it points to groups and individuals focus on this time of year more than other times. 

In keeping with our “you can’t ruin Christmas theme”, I had asked them to bring $5 Starbucks money and our evening began at a outdoor nativity at a nearby Catholic church.  Reminding them of the infamous Talladega Nights scene where Ricky Bobby prays to baby Jesus, I shared with our students that this was how we usually picture Jesus, laying asleep in the manger.  The meaning of Christmas is so much bigger and everywhere. 

After breaking up into our small groups, their assignment was to find moments of Christmas and to find ways how they could be bring a moment of its meaning to others in the mall.  The rules were simple, they could not spend any of the money on themselves or on anyone on their Christmas list.  We were here for to experience God and the “other”.

It was great; two groups got together and bought several coats and donated them to a coat drive.  Some even gave their own coats.  One girl tried to give her money to one who sold trinkets and cheap jewelry from one of those little stands that are outside bigger retailers.  The lady gave her 5 sets of earrings that her group got wrapped by those who were raising money for cancer research and then gave the 5 gift wrappers the earrings they just wrapped.  They were several other stories but it was evident from the stories like that, they were catching the point. 

The meaning of Christmas is captured in many places including at the mall watching families and people shopping for others.  Not everyone is giving out of formality, some will actually be a blessing.  Some are making gifts that will do a similar thing. Many are donating their time, their coats, their resources.  It’s my opinion that we tend to look to much to the negative and annoying aspects of the holiday and overlook moments like these.  Even in the den of commercialization and materialism, we can remember the love of Christ.  No one may have gotten saved (or saved again) but all of us were encouraged, strangers were blessed and I believe God was glorified more by this than another party in our beloved Fireside Room.  

After we exchanged our stories, I told them the legend-story of the candy cane.  You probably heard it or something like it.  A candy maker some 300 years ago gave out these shepherd-shaped sugar sticks to children who behaved during the church Christmas concert that had a Jesus the Great Shepherd theme.  Later the story evolved to the shape is a “J” theme for the baby Jesus and the red stripe was symbolic of his blood.  Yes, even candy can be redeemed and for those who are searching and celebrating Christmas, nothing can ruin its meaning.  

You Can't Really Ruin Christmas

Last night during at our Senior High Youth Group, we had some fruitful discussion regarding Christmas and the celebration of the holiday itself.  I showed them the Advent Conspiracy video and Shane Claiborne’s “Buy Nothing Day” video.  We talked about Santa, presents, and the arguments surrounding nativities on public spaces.  Very fruitful discussion, especially enjoyed the nativities one where we agreed that they shouldn’t be tacky.  

In my local town, we have a nativity scene on some public space that also shares a Hanukkah display.  I, for one, have no problem with it. Both are appropriate and I like driving past it.  I shared last night that there’s a house I saw recently that had the worst nativity set that I remember seeing.  It was so bad that I questioned if the house belonged to a Christian or a mean-spirited, non-believer.  The Joseph looked like a giant lego and the Mary was unsightly and the whole scene was just terrible.  In fact, it made me reconsider my faith and I’m fairly certain that if I were not a follower of Christ, I would have driven past it and it would have re-confirmed my doubts in Christianity.  In fact, if any hope, peace, love and beliefs of transcendence had crept into my unbelieving life, I think I would have had to gone some place and repented of these holy thoughts because I would have been at risk of believing.  It was so awful, that I think the plastic baby Jesus is trying to crawl out of it as you read this.  

I feel that some have made the nativity scene the official symbol of Christmas.  Although I appreciate symbols and love a beautiful nativity scene, to me, it does not symbolize Christmas for it waters down it’s meaning (again, I write “to me”).   

Speaking of symbols, I like Santa Claus.  I think he’s a fantastic figure. Not more important than Jesus mind you, but fantastic nonetheless.  Though I do believe that he is far too exalted, I do enjoy the myth that surrounds him.  I like Rudolph and the other reindeer, the North Pole and the elves and the toy-making and all that goes on with it.  I like the legend of St. Nicholas and I like buying Coca-Cola with Santa on the label. Why?  Nothing spiritual about it, I just like it.

Most days, I like the idea of gift-buying.  There is goodness in such tangible expressions of blessings (like coming to the Lord’s table and celebrating the Eucharist). Though it is easily overblown, I confess that I do enjoy buying something “extravagant” for a loved one every so often. What I don’t enjoy (nor understand) is the need to buy a sweater or gadget or mug for every one you know and I have never been able to comprehend how fruitcake ever came to be a suitable gift for anyone (my personal theory is that it was meant as a prank but someone decided to make some money off of it).

If you’ve been able to read this far, here’s where I am going with this.  I don’t believe that Jesus can be taken out of Christmas.  I do not buy into this helpless feeling that you can lose the meaning of Christmas (just like you can’t ruin a trip to Jerusalem just because those guys keep trying to sell you the Bibles with the wooden covers on them.  If you’ve been there, you know what I mean).

Forget about “seasons greetings versus happy holidays versus Merry Christmas”, Christmas only loses its magic if you were focused on the wrong parts of it to begin with.  You can’t ruin Christmas and if it is then it was our own fault for that would mean our hearts were not focused on worshipping Christ or celebrating the Incarnation of our Lord.

Reflecting on Competition, the (Christian) American Dream – Post 2

I received a couple of emails and encouraging words of the USA Today post and competition as being part of the problem with our teen-agers.  I’d like to go a little further (which usually only ruins a good point and becomes the blog equivalent of smashing your guitar at the end of the set).

What would it look like if we didn’t put as much pressure on our students?  Before I delve in, here are a few qualifiers:

I am not against competition as a whole, there is fruit in it. 

I believe in personal responsibility and am trying to avoid being overly sympathetic to teenagers and see them as victims.

But I do want “us” (“us” = all from parents, to youth workers, to teachers, to politicians to rock stars, to baristas…) to be faithful to our callings and responsibilities.

I see a couple of questions:  What would it look like if we didn’t put as much pressure on our students?   What kind of dream are we encouraging our students to pursue?  Are we actually leading them (and ourselves) to good, healthy, meaningful lives?  Oh, and how about one more – what is the meaning of life?

My main problem is the “dream” that we sell our kids.  As you know, it goes something like this:  If you get good grades, and are balanced with music, sports, theater, you can gain entrance into a good college, and if you do well there, you can land a great job, marry a great person, get a nice home, vacation wherever you want, and do whatever you want to do.” 
In our Christian homes, we add “and make a commitment to Jesus …” making it the Christian dream. 

I don’t know anyone, literally, who does whatever they want to do.  Even rock-stars don’t do whatever they want.  (Not even if it appears that way on stage).

The dream is a mirage and you can feel free to deconstruct it.  And while I value education and encourage our students to meet their potential, and think SAT prep classes are a good idea, and believe there are many lessons learned in sports, theater, writing in the school newspaper, editing the yearbook, and the numerous other extracurriculars, most of us know that there is more to life.

Though it’s preached in churches, it also makes it’s point in movies like, “Family Man”, “Braveheart”, and even in “Spiderman” (and many others).  And the point is life must have meaning.

If I can transition from our students to “us” as a whole, I’d like to wind down to some kind of conclusion.    Though I believe the aforementioned pursuits and extracurriculars are worthy, important, necessary but only to an extent.  I value education but I also value love. I love athletics but also need the pursuit of peace.  I enjoy being entertained but desire the call to justice. 

Of course, being a youth pastor, I am expected to finish this with a commercial justifying the existence of my position and work.  Don’t fault me too much, I do believe in what I do. 

But this post isn’t intended to convert anyone.  This being a post on the internet, I do not want to presuppose my faith and values on you.  But can we agree that life must have meaning and that our world would be better if we encouraged ourselves and those that come after us to pursue a better dream?  I know as this conversation expands we would have different ideas of that dream and this is among the reasons why we have millions of books, but can we at least agree that the present dream is flawed?

Reflecting on USA Today Article: “Students Cheat, Steal, but say They’re Good.”

From this USA Today article:  “Students Cheat, Steal, but Say They’re Good”

“In the past year, 30% of U.S. high school students have stolen from a store and 64% have cheated on a test, according to a new, large-scale survey suggesting that Americans are too apathetic about ethical standards.

Cheating in school is rampant and getting worse. Sixty-four percent of students cheated on a test in the past year and 38% did so two or more times, up from 60% and 35% in a 2006 survey.”

Other findings:

• Thirty-six percent said they used the Internet to plagiarize an assignment, up from 33% in 2004.

• Forty-two percent said they sometimes lie to save money — 49% of the boys and 36% of the girls.

Despite such responses, 93% of the students said they were satisfied with their personal ethics and character, and 77% affirmed that “when it comes to doing what is right, I am better than most people I know.”

Why and how can this be?  Well the answer is Marylyn Manson of course!  Since his career faded out of the popular eye, this world has gotten a lot safer hasn’t it?  Kidding, my point is that you can’t blame pop-culture for the primary reason for these sorts of issues. 

Whose fault it is?  Everybody’s.  From parents, to teachers, to youth pastors, to marketers, to toll-both collectors to the students themselves. 

We create this incredible pressure on our students that they have to win at any cost, make money at any cost, look great at any cost, live the American dream at any cost.  Cheating, lying, stealing becomes part of the pragmatism to achieve that.

We create this huge pressure and then celebrate the brief positive moments that result.  All the while they stress out, cry themselves to sleep, tear ACL’s, go through eating, sleeping, and emotional disorders so we can clap proudly at graduation. 

Also, some of this is the human sinful condition.  (So to the person who might comment, “People are sinful.  Read Romans 3:23, it’s that simple…”) – yes, I understand that but I think it’s even deeper and more complicated. 

What’s the solution?  Sorry this is a blog so there aren’t too many solutions on these types of posts but I’d like to throw this out there. What if did our part to help get rid of competition?   Aren’t pick-up games more fun when you don’t really keep score?  Professional games that keep score are only fun for the winning team and its fans, right?  Is there a Cubs fan here that can yell a tearful “amen”?  (Until last month, Phillis fans were too depressed to even get on the internet, now they’re the most joyful people I know.)

As a youth pastor, I tell our students that I won’t pray for their grades or their class rankings (or that they get the lead in a play or the solo in elite choir), but will pray for their work ethic, stress, and time management skills.  As others have, I try to expose the “straight A” student as not the ideal life.  Nor is it the gamer or the first chair cello player.  What good is it for a person to graduate Valedictorian but lose his/her soul?

I want to be careful here and not be responsible for encouraging a generation of underachieving Bart Simpsons but a show full of Lisa’s is quite boring and not well-lived from my perspective.  Back to the point, we must do our part to discourage the succeed at any cost, competitive game that we seem to be caught up in.  More to say, but thoughts?

Francis Chan at #NYWC in Pittsburgh

 Youth Specialties Pittsburgh – General Session 3 – Francis Chan – Post 5

Francis Chan was the speaker for General Session 3.  He’s a great speaker, great energy, all that you would expect from a gen. session speaker.  Honesty, I wasn’t sure about him since I heard a particular podcast that kinda … hmm … not sure what the word is here but I wasn’t feeling him.  Glad we don’t finalize our impressions from one interview or something though.

Anyway, I connected with this message.  Loved that he spoke about the complexities of parables.  Reminding us that Jesus actually wanted people to work and struggle through their meanings.  They were for those who wanted to know and wanted to be his disciples. 

I am lost as a listener every time someone says something to the effect of “It’s easy, we just need to GO!!” or “the Gospel isn’t rocket science”.  It’s actually harder then rocket science.  Anyway, Francis didn’t do that.

One of his main points was, “We as youth pastors do so many things different than Jesus.”  I’ve always tried do to the alternative youth ministry thing but even there, I find myself doing things that Jesus might consider unnecessary.   

He also said: In reaching our students we overestimate the importance of attendance.  To the point that when kids leave, we beg for them to come back, offer pizza, prizes.  Jesus let the crowds leave for the effect of his message.

On Salt:  “Jesus talking about salt and its use.  He says that some of you are “flavorless salt” that has not use.  It’s not enough good enough to be used as manure.”

Jesus was saying, “You are ruining crap”. 

He used a fun illustration of adding  a big pile of flavorless salt to small packet’s size worth of salt.  Who adds flavorless salt to real salt?  Why would you do that?  Ohhh, because we like to have bigger piles, bigger crowds, bigger attendance etc. 

We can build our congregations, we can get people to come front. He joked how he has a story that gets people to come down every time.  True, true. 

But what we need is something super-natural.  We need life change. 

He spoke about Elijah as a man just like him.  Fire can come down from heaven but it’s the work of God not of ours. 

“It will be hard but we must teach and lead like Jesus.”  

Reflecting on Marko's words from #NYWC in Pittsburgh

Mark Ostreicher, National Youth Workers Convention – Youth Specialties – Pittsburgh – 11.3.08

 

I appreciate Mark Ostreicher from YS.  I really do. For many reasons but I don’t feel like listing them.  But I’m glad that he’s the president of YS.  And being president and hosting the YS event, I appreciate that he took the last session on Monday morning when so many attendees have already left. Most presidents of organizations take the best attended session to celebrate their position and their egos but in the tradition of Mike Yaconelli and Tic Long, this is a humble expression that I appreciate.

So there we are Monday morning and Marko was rewinding the events and themes of the conference and said that he felt that he should get rid of what he was planning to say.  I do that too.  Like when I have nothing, or when I know what I have is garbage, I too pull an Eli Manning and change the play at the line.  (Just kidding, Marko has too good of a mind to pull off lame speaker antics).

 

He told us that he thought he had the pinnacle of youth minisry with this “Back to School” Bash even that brought thousands of kids out.  He would walk around and ask people, “Did you see that?  God was truly working!”  Later on, he realied that in all the years of bumping into former students and reconnecting through facebook, none fo them ever said, “That event changed my life”.

 

That’s usually my argument against Christian t-shrts and bumper stickers but I appreciated Marko using it to describe events.  Because although I rarely thrown these types of events where I rent out an amusement park, I do take some pride in the events we do. 

 

He mentioned a couple of things that he felt were more worthwhile and they were things like the communion he enjoyed with his house church.  They had great meals together, they would enjoy the quietness together, share, pray, etc. 

 

It was void of great size but deep with community and mission.  Then he said, “Small is the value in the kingdom of God.”.   Here’s some more

it’s simple in its dna and structure

            beautiful and simple presence of Jesus moving into the world

            present, not distracted.

            it’s always changing, it cannot be packaged

 

            It’s fluid because the gospel is not an idea, it’s the person of Christ.

            Christ is the midst already present,            

            We can’t conjure it up with slight of hand and amazing programming. 

But we are the equipment.  (not the youth room etc.) bc what we have is Christ the hope of glory – this is the gospel that we bring to our kids. 

            The stuff that you thought you needed is a deterrent to youth ministry.

 

I love this idea for so many reasons.  One, it celebrates all that are in youth ministry.  Most conferences dangle the carrot of numbers and status in front of you forgeting the fact that many would routinely walk away from Jesus and he spent a great deal of his time in smaller numbers.  Second, while there is a place for signage, promotion and the pursuit of better resources, it is not in the place of the heart of the Gospel.  This is something we can all buy into and it’s nice to hear it from a guy like Marko.

 

I’ll  end this post by using his closing “May you deeply blessed as you remember the real gospel in your soul.”

Tony Jones at Youth Specialties – General Session – 11.2.08

First, it’s about time Tony speaks at the General Session at YS’s National Youth Workers Convention.  Because the world tends to revolve around me, I did literally write in last year’s eval that Tony should be a given  a general session.  (I’m sure YS would have come up with this had I not written that since I’m pretty sure those evals head straight for recycling but it’s a great ploy in making attendees feel heard – lol.)

After a warm introduction from Marko, there was the Church Basement Road Show thing with Doug Pagitt and Mark Scadrette (who makes a hilarious preacher-type and in real life is the author of Soul Graffiti – Making a Life in the Way of Jesus).  After that, Tony began speaking …. lol– just kidding.  I, for one enjoyed the CBRS and couldn’t stop laughing, especially at Doug.  How one of the most brilliant minds that you’ll ever meet got roped into this is either a great sign of friendship or there is some Josey-Bass statistic out there that has an irrefutable link to dressing up like a 20th century traveling southern evangelist and selling thousands of copies of A Christianity Worth Believing. 

On Tony’s new belief.net blog, he wrote that he was afraid that some people didn’t get it. He and his friends are in good company for a lot of people didn’t understand the parables of Jesus and a lot of men don’t understand women and a lot of us don’t understand Sigur Rios but love them all anyway.  Perhaps some didn’t get it but for all the times I’ve had to listen to a Josh McDowell type, I appreciate YS considering those like me. 

After the Tony & Trucker Frank clip (which is brilliant), Tony shared a little about his journey, his faith and the nature of truth.  If you know Tony, you know that he’s well-educated, brilliant, and never got the memo that  you don’t have to talk to people after you speak.  He probably doesn’t know that because he was a youth pastor for 20 years (source: Marko) and as many of you know, after you just spent 25 minutes sharing the most profound truth humankind has ever known, you are talking to 10th graders about LeBron, Brittany, and the big Algebra test.   Seriously, Tony as well as many of his friends, are among the most accessible to have conversation with you.

Tony talked about his life starting in his senior year of  high school about a letter that his youth pastor made him write to himself that was sent during his freshmen year at Dartmouth  It was a helpful reminder of the presence of Christ in his life.  He shared about his college bible study experience (this story is in his excellent book, The New Christians – you should read it), his Fuller Seminary experience, his studies in philosophy and learning how to understand the great German theologians … in German.  This story transitioned into the importance of living out the Gospel relationally while he lived in a poor part of South Dakota in the Indian reservations.  If there’s something wrong with Tony, it’s that he speaks better of his time living in South Dakota then he does about his experience in New Jersey (he studied at Princeton Theological Seminary and is currently finishing up his doctorate).

Then the scary part, that wasn’t that scary … unless you are addicted to you pre-conceived notions and couldn’t wait to pick on something.  Tony talked about the nature of truth.  What he said was extremely appropriate for a YS General Session and from my seat, I hoped it stirred people’s appetites.  He said that truth walked with Adam & Eve, wrestled with Jacob, was in a cloud leading the Israelites and that truth was born as a man and had foot fungus and bowel movements and about the profound nature of Christ.  “It’s truth with dirt under its fingerails.  That’s our truth.”  

Reminding everyone that it we couldn’t reduce it all to passages or theologies. It was almost a Pauline moment, “If anyone has right to boast …”.  He asked us youthworkers to remember that it’s worth being locked in a YMCA with junior highers, and be underpaid, overworked, and unappreciated.   But it was well worth it to “bask in the knowledge” share the truth with our young people. 

I am a fan and a friend of Tony and as a brother in the Lord was proud of his time.  Toward the end of 2003, it was books like Postmodern Youth Ministry and McLaren’s New Kind of Christians that w

ere very helpful for me like many others.   It would be typical to end the story that people rushed the stage for his blessing upon them but he ended up announcing that he was going to play the Jesus Road show song to open up the Crowder set which launched everyone out of their seats to the main stage.  So typical of Christians to rush past the challenging stuff to get to the good and comfortable stuff (I love Crowder too, don’t miss my point).

For many this was a great starting point.  And For people like me who are barely two steps ahead in this part of the journey, it was more than a good moment but a necessary one. I need to see organizations like YS encourage this part of the conversation.  I don’t need everyone to be emergent.  Not needed at all but what I would appreciate is that before people attack the conversation and the people that are having the conversation to know the conversation and to participate in it.

 

YS Pittsburgh – GS 2 – M. Feinberg, A. Marin, S. Chan-Rah – Post 4 – #nywc

Last night was probably one of the best general sessions I had been to at YS.  They had an interesting format, 3 speakers, 18 minutes each, 6 minute discussions with those around you after each speaker, 6 minutes of questions that were submitted via text message.  (not real sure about the times but it was something like that. 

The first speaker was Margaret Feinberg.  Appreciated what she had to say and the spirit she said it in.  I felt that her message may have gotten a little lost out of the three but here’s also what I think I know.  There were some people who probably really connected with her.  Some who really needed to hear another woman speak (that doesn’t work on staff for YS.  We love/appreciate you Jeanne). 

Margaret spoke about her journey, personal, professional, the call of  God, the storms, the joys, and the journey with Him.  My favorite part was when she said something to the effect of “We like to think that surrender is one big decision but it’s not.  Surrender is thousands of  decisions that shape our commitment”.  In contrast to the prosperity gospel and whatever, I always appreciate when we are reminded by discussing sacrifice and surrender. 

The second speaker was Andrew Marin.  Jeanne said in her introduction that this is a discussion that we have had for a while but haven’t had it up front in a general session yet.  She said we found someone who can do that and he was Andrew.

Andrew began my sharing how his 3 closest friends in 3 consecutive months revealed to him they were gay.  Indeed that’s pretty crazy.   Long story short – In order to understand homosexuality, his friends, and the Gospel more, he moved to a part of Chicago that had a large gay population, went to gay bars, events, and tried to become as  he said, “the gayest straight guy in Chicago”.

Very, very true that we as believers need to do a much better job for the homosexual community.  We should begin by bringing them into our churches.  Andrew suggested that almost every school has a Gay-Straight Alliance that we could be a part of. 

Since this is a blog, I feel I can write this.  I think one of the memorable moments was when he said something like, “We need to stick it to the man” in referring to how some institutions need to woken up.  Not sure if that’s the best use of these types of expressions concerning the subject but everyone around me quietly laughed for 20 minutes.  It’s a room full of youthworkers so understand that but as for me, I’ll never forget to include this part of the story. 

But I don’t want to pick on stuff like that or which Scriptures he used and didn’t use (he was clear that he thought the Scriptures taught that homosexuality is a sin) but it was good to have Andrew as part of the night. 

The last presenter was Soong Chan-Rah who was introduced by Marko explaining the genesis of this relationship.  If you were part of the YS’s email list, then you know that in one of the skit books, there was a Chinese restaurant owner as a character that was made fun.  It included the broken English, to the phonetically spelled mispronunciations to other offensive stereotypes.  It was Soong who brought it to Marko’s attention which quickly led to a huge apology, retraction and in short, a humble and beautiful moment in resolve and reconciliation.  So they reminded some of that story.

Not sure what was the highlight but was thrilled when Soong Chan- Rah said something to the effect of “we interpret Christianity through a western white understanding not through the Scriptures”.  It’s a shock value statement of course.  (There is no such thing as an objective interpretation of the Bible by the way) and this isn’t me saying, “yeah Sonng sure told them!!  Well maybe  a little but seriously, what I am celebrating is that we are having these discussions on a bigger level and in this case, in a general session.

I went to his talk-back session and there is just so much to try to say here that I’ll have to continue later.  I recommend that you get the mp3 of this session though.  (I will be just to process it again).